In the last few weeks our
Political Advocacy class has been learning about and discussing a very
important aspect of our political culture – special interests, otherwise known
as lobbyists to the greater public. Lobbying often receives negative attention
or is accused of being biased against the public yet lobbying is a staple
aspect of our political world and is one of the many ways representatives are
able to understand the public and serve their constituencies. We were able to
meet with a speaker who works in the lobbying world and has extensive knowledge
on this subject and he happily shared his opinion with our class. His company
is a full-service government affairs firm that monitors the actions of states
that may impact the various organizations his firm supports. Here I will
analyze his overall opinion (and how it reflects the work he does) and compare
it to the ideas put forth by academics regarding what special interests are and
what they do.
“How many of you believe
that lobbying is bad?” - Majority of
class raised their hands.
“Okay, I’ll tell you why
you’re wrong. Think of anything, whatever you want and understand that everything you use or love or want has been
lobbied for.”
The speaker put forth
many examples, one being makeup. His company represents a large corporation who
oversees many big-name makeup companies and he explained how they lobby for
makeup. For this argument, he explained a scenario of a proposal to ban a
chemical that certain makeups containing SPF have – his group, and other makeup
lobbying groups, would argue against the state that without that chemical the
SPF is useless and that it is necessary to continue production of such products
and provide a safe product to consumers. This is simply one example to support
his opinion. His company represents many other large corporations who seek
support in approaching the government to help their cause or find support for
their vision.
This idea that groups,
such as a large makeup corporation, retain lobbyists to voice their wants and
needs to the government is rooted deep into the history of lobbying groups.
Wright’s discussion on the “Evolution of Interest Groups” puts lobbying in the
context of its original ideas. The United States is a representative republic
based government and while some, such as James Madison, feared that factions
and interest groups would turn the country against each other and lead to a ‘tyranny
of the majority’, the union was built to represent the concerns and needs of
the constituents within its borders. Men fought for independence on the idea of
“no taxation without representation,” in which “taxation” could be replaced
with several other priority concerns Americans possessed then and now. The
government is here to serve the people and therefore should respect the people.
It is this idea of the
government’s role as protector of the citizens and provider of safety that led
to the formation of special interest and lobbying groups. The right to free
speech and the right to petition the government allowed groups who felt slighted
by big law-making decisions or other groups to come together and fight for
their rights and opinions. Wright uses the example of the American Postal
Workers Union which was a group of postal workers who felt slighted by the
rules that were in place and decided to voice their concern – this led to other
groups to form which felt similar or wanted to compete against another group’s
intentions. Wright described this production of interest groups as a “wavelike
formation” with groups forming when they are disturbed by economic, social,
political or technological change, otherwise known as the disturbance theory.
Today lobbying groups are
not seen as these tough groups who fight for the rights of a particular sector
of people or jobs, but as groups who are biased and use their positionship to
affect advocacy and issues while leaving the ‘little guys’ out of the
discourse. This idea seems to apply mostly to large corporations or large
interest groups who have wide reaching appeal across the nation, such as the
National Rifle Association or the American Civil Liberties Union. However,
Wright’s argument and description of the “free rider” program is a good place
to base a counter-argument to those who hold the previously stated opinions of
lobbying groups. Lobbying groups were once started and maintained by people who
wanted a say in the government and people actually participated and helped
their special interest group make a difference. Today a lot of lobbying groups
deal with free riders who benefit from the work of the lobbying groups without
putting in any physical effort, monetary support, or membership contribution.
The people complain of
lobbyists fighting for companies to slight individuals when they are in fact
benefitting from these fights, such as is with the makeup lobbying group our
speaker discussed with the class earlier. Those who use makeup or any of those
SPF related products have benefitted from the work of that group and its
supporters without putting in any effort besides to criticize special
interests. Obviously, it is not always the case that a lobbying cause will
benefit the ‘little people’; they may in fact sometimes be harmful to
individuals or counteractive to another group’s efforts. However, it is
important to note as John M. de Figueiredo and Brian Kelleher Richter have put
forth in their analysis, “Advancing Empirical Research on Lobbying,” not much
is known on lobbying groups or their total impact and influence on the
government; therefore, it is hard to issue accusations against lobbying groups
or criticize their actions as if they are the sole arbiters of policy-making
decisions.
By taking a step back and
looking at lobbying groups as a whole instead of their specific flaws it is
clear the point our speaker was trying to make. While one may not agree with
what one specific group is lobbying for, it is highly likely that one would be
able to find a counter-group that is supportive of one’s own values and
ideology. For example, I might not agree with a group that lobbies against
candy because of its sugar content, but it is highly likely that I will be able
to find a different lobbying group that is fighting for the candy-makers who
know that sugar is one of the best parts of candy (this is all speculative of
course and completely my own opinion). Despite a lack of research or thorough
understanding of what lobbying groups do or how they do it, Americans are often
found fighting against the interests who are fighting for them. I believe our
anger and dislike towards lobbying groups should be directed elsewhere.
It is in this context of
individuals misunderstanding the concept of lobbying and what it does to help
individuals (a majority of the time) that I agree with our speaker’s comment. Everything we use or love or want has been
lobbied for. That is a strong statement and a true statement. The Marvel
mega-hit movies I love to watch have been lobbied for regarding property rights
and copyright laws, and the Netflix that I love to binge every weekend has been
lobbied for by activists who support streaming. As someone who is interning at
a very similar firm to that of our speaker, I have seen firsthand how lobbying
groups work to fight for special interests. One group that Venn founded and
manages is ESCA, the Employee-Owned S-Corporations of America, a lobbying group
that fights for small business owners. We hold conferences twice a year to
bring in more members and petition Congressional staff to support bills that we
have put forth in the House and the Senate. It is a full-fledged operation that
will benefit not only our 200 company members, but the thousands of other small
businesses out there, including my family’s own DJ business.
As a history and
political science major I know why Americans are so critical of our government
and any entity that seems to be supporting it or consorting with it (I’ll give
you a hint to the event I’m referring to – flashlights and hotels were
involved). However, this distrust has clouded our judgements and biased our
opinions to the point where we don’t even try to understand what a lobbying
group is and what it does for us. Our speaker and I both come from difficult
and humbling backgrounds and I was quite inspired by his dedication and work
ethic. I was not sure about my internship at first because I too was wary of
lobbying firms, but working with and for such groups so closely I have realized
the enormous potential benefits that they can provide to all of us.
So, as you read this remember, everything
you use or love or want has been lobbied for, including this Blogger site
and the laptop I typed it on.
Hey Lexi! First, this blog post is really gripping and well written. The ending gives you chills. I appreciate the way you worked in reflection with the readings. The example of his question and our hand raising also begins the piece with a general outlook of how most Americans view lobbying – as inherently negative. I admittedly fall into this category, but this class has challenged my beliefs and made me question a lot about why I hold certain views. I wonder if it has done the same for you. Second, your analysis is very interesting and well-thought out. I agree that lobbying appears to be a staple in our government and one that has existed for a long time - since the view of our government as a protector. If this is the goal of lobbying, I wonder how lobbying groups protect certain groups more than others. I imagine certain groups benefit at much higher rates – specifically the wealthy.
ReplyDeleteI also think of the "small government" warriors who want the government out of our daily lives - what would they think of lobbying? With regards to the free rider situation, I feel as though the NRA and the ACLU are somewhat different entities - the free riders in these situations are pretty different. The ACLU fights for the oppressed groups and civil rights in court, while the NRA does back door deals to loosen gun laws. The free riders in these situations are vastly different, it appears to me. (I still love these examples, though. Shows the vast difference in interest groups!) I also appreciate the illustration of the candy company - it reminded me of Malcom Gladwell's Revisionist History podcast episode about the way McDonalds fries were changed...you should give it a listen. It talks about how corporations are sometimes forced to change things to make them "healthier." In the end, you blog made me realize once again - is lobbying unstoppable and undeniable? Yes. But I wonder if there is a way to make it more transparent? How do you make something so influential, less behind-closed-doors? My other main struggle with lobbying is that it is all about money…from the lobbyists, to the legislators, to the big businesses – it is all about making money and winning battles over your wealth. This seems to be the issue for me – how do you make lobbying, since it will never disappear, more about the people it affects instead of the profit gained?
Best,
Hope
HI Lexi!! I really appreciated that you started off your post acknowledging the fact that lobbyists and lobbying receives more negative attention than positive attention. I touched on that a little as well on my blogpost! I also liked the fact that you addressed how lobbying is a, “staple aspect of our political world.” The speaker did address how vital lobbying was. He demonstrated this by illustrating how much lobbying work it took to just make sure makeup products were safe and toxin free to use and wear. I saw that you mentioned this too! I think I understood him most when he said that everything we loved has been lobbied for. I don’t know about you, but I love my morning coffee. Now that I think about it, it blows my mind that things like coffee have been lobbied for.
ReplyDeleteYou make a great point when you mention that citizens are found arguing against issues when, in all actuality, those interest groups are fighting for the citizens. I didn’t think of that at all. But, it makes sense. When people don’t do their research, they end up harming themselves in the long run. And, I agree, Americans can find a way of channeling their hatred elsewhere. It does not make sense to hate a group that is trying to do some good.
Reflecting on the “hate” aspect of it, do you remember when you were first exposed to hearing that lobbying and lobbyists are bad people? I remember when I was first exposed to it. It was in high school, and my teacher lectured about how lobbyists typically get their way and are only motivated by self interest. How skewed. Now that I’m older and have actually done research myself, I know this is not the case. And our speaker did a really good job solidifying this concept too.
I thought it was extremely interesting that you brought up your family’s DJ business. I would love to learn more about how your family business is affected by lobbying groups. I’m going to have to find you and ask!
I applaud you for being so empathetic towards the end of your blogpost, too. Americans are very critical of our government, and sometimes I don’t blame them for that. They just naturally feed off any news source that is biased of course. Overall, great reflection about our speaker! I enjoyed reading your thoughts about it.
Hi Lexi!
ReplyDeleteThis was a very thought-provoking post. I appreciated your use of examples throughout-- it really did a lot to illustrate your points. Like Hope, I, too, was skeptical of lobbyists (and still have some reservations), so your post is instrumental in challenging some of those beliefs. Most notably, thanks for sharing about Venn's work with small businesses. In a society that is very biased against lobbying groups, it is refreshing to hear about such projects.
Like Hope, I was interested in your examples of free ridership using the NRA and the ACLU. While it is easy to say that one does benefit people by fighting for the civil rights of oppressed groups and one does not by advocating for looser gun regulations, this is also subjective depending on people's values. As many gun advocates argue, the NRA fights for their Constitutional rights in the same way ACLU advocates argue that that organization fights for their Constitutional rights. Thus, both groups may argue that they benefit many people who do not pay for membership or donate their time—free riders.
However, this gets more complicated for products that are not really mentioned in the Constitution. Your mention of lobbyists in the candy industry is actually a perfect example. There are pro-added sugar and anti-added sugar lobbying groups, but it is hard to argue that they are protecting Constitutionally guaranteed rights. So, it would be easy to argue that the pro-added sugar side is harming Americans by making their food even more unhealthy and that the anti-added sugar side is the only one that would suffer from a free rider problem because it actually benefits the overall health level of the American population. However, it is a generally expected right for one to be able to choose what they want to consume, which could make this issue into a question of the public’s right to health versus free choice. Additionally, this is also complicated by various additional considerations, like job creation, public opinion, etc. So, I guess that that was a complicated way of saying that I agree that it is hard to say that any one interest group is “evil,” as there are so many factors and points of view that can be used in making such a judgement.
Nevertheless, it is important not to let lobbying firms and interest groups off the hook completely just because it is impossible to label any one group as purely good or bad. I know you mentioned that it is also hard to do this because there is so little information out there, but this plays well into Hope’s point about transparency. I think it is important to have some sort of transparency in government just to give citizens the opportunity to inform themselves. This seems to be a major part of why interest groups are deemed “bad”—everyday people don’t know enough about them, and we tend to fear the unknown. Additionally, this would make sure that there was no inappropriate influential behavior and that Congressman would be making decisions that best serve their constituents. However, the inevitable question is how to provide that transparency. Entrusting the task to the media? Creating a new government agency? A new registration program? We might have to experiment with a few of these options to find out.
--Maria